Some definitions in case you are new to this:
Convention - A convention (or con,) in the sense of a meeting, is a gathering of individuals who meet at a pre-arranged place and time in order to discuss or engage in some common interest. (wikipedia) The Cons I refer to mostly feature anime, manga, comic, gaming, and other types of communicative art as a focus for attendees who indulge in them either as fans or as creators.
Artist Alley - A section from a con dedicated to independent artists who may purchase a space (usually a table) to display and sell their creations
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The Artist Alley is a great way for artists and craftspeople to promote themselves and make some money on the side. I have had a space in the Alley for three years now, and have experienced it in Anime North (Toronto), FanExpo (Toronto) and Otakon (Baltimore.) Not the most impressive list, but I feel it had given me enough material to reflect upon.
I just came back from FanExpo this weekend. I had a decent time, punctured by some dreadful lulls and general boredom, but buoyed by some really cool moments as well. I have to say though, out of all the alleys I have been to, this was my worst performance yet. I was still able to sell, but it wasn't as great as I'd wanted it to be. I was a little bummed out, I'm not gonna lie, but it was nothing compared to the discouragement that I saw in some of the other artists who were not doing so well either. Throughout the past couple of years, I have seen and heard the same type of discouragement echoed, accompanied by anger and self-doubt. It's a very reasonable way to react to the situation but is it really justified?
Here is the way I see it:
You can't let the numbers rule you.
Sometimes we all get so caught up in the money-making aspect of it that we lose sight of why we're in the Alley in the first place. We should not be there to make money. Period. It is simply idiotic to look to the alley as a source of income unless you're a professional, in which case all of this is non-applicable. Sure, it'd be nice to have extra money, but it is important to go into this without expecting anything in return. If you're just starting out like me, the most important thing to you should be promotion and networking, and not how much you sell. Instead of an investment to be earned back, consider the money you put into it as paying the convention to show your lovely artwork (and your beautiful face) to the masses. Big companies spend millions of dollars each year on ads and brochures, most of which get defaced and thrown out, yet why do they keep doing it? because any recognition is better than no recognition. As long as your art is displayed and thousands of people are looking at it, flipping through your portfolio, taking your business card, the money is already well-spent.
Zero profit does not mean your artwork sucks.
I hear this sentiment a lot. When an artist doesn't do well, they think: my art sucks, that's why no one is buying it. Ok, so I admit that the skill level of some of those artists are not as high as other individuals, and yes, sometimes that may be the reason why no one is buying it, but my point is not directed towards those individuals, it is to those artists who ARE good - the ones who are producing great pieces of work that they think haven't been doing well. I say "think" because this is what I hear a lot: "people keep saying - oh that's nice, but no one is buying it! this is pissing me off!" And this type of comment pisses ME off. Treat the compliments you get like gems. These people have no reason to even compliment you, and if they don't think a piece is attractive, they wouldn't have said anything.
Too often artists view it as # of prints sold = how good the print is, and I think that's way too negative. There are tons of factors that prevent people from buying your work, or any artwork, that's something you'll have to get used to. To most people, art is an indulgence, not a necessity, so there will be times when they simply don't want to spend money on it. Other factors may have something to do with the popularity of fanart, and your mediocre drawing of Naruto may sell out, while your excellent original piece gets lots of compliments but zero sales. Judge your artwork by the comments and critiques you get, instead of how well it sells. And NEVER get discouraged after all that. You've been told all day that your work is good, how much more validation do you need? Sure you can think of ways to increase your sales through your presentation, or creating art based on popular characters, but don't get too upset just because you're not making good money.
Remember your purpose there; you want to improve, you want to meet people who like your work, you want to make a good impression, you want to learn from your mistakes, you want to have fun chatting with other artists. You don't want to alienate the customers with your scowling face, and you definitely don't want to doubt yourself and your skill. Because if you start doubting yourself and being bitter and depressed about the whole thing, that's just going to prevent you from doing better in the future.
So the bottom line is: recognize the fact that you're still unknown and learning. Treat every compliment like gold - they are a sign that people notice your talent. Use the chance to interact with those people and give them a card. Sales are a one-time thing but leaving a good impression whether through your work or your speech can lead to them contacting you in the future for opportunities.
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This entry is getting long, so I'll stop here for now. Like I said, I'm no pro and being discouraged and depressed because of bad sales have happened to me a couple of times in the past. But after I changed the way I look at it, I was able to move on and not let that discouragement bring me down. Of course, you shouldn't completely disregard the business side of all this, so next time I will post my thoughts on ways of pricing, value of artwork, presentation, coping with boredom, etc.
Monday, August 27, 2007
Artist Alley - Part I
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Yay! This showed up on my f-list. :) I'm pretty sure you don't get comments on feeds though, so I'll leave comments directly on your blog.
And I'm not really sure WHY it shows me as Cameron (under choose an identity it says Cameron (Your Blogger display name))
... I haven't had a Blogger account in like 7 years, and my display name on LJ isn't Cameron. How did it know? WTF? XD; I'm scared now.
hahaha yay! well I set it so anyone can comment so you can always comment as "other" or "anon" that's funny and kinda odd though, if it automatically showed your name =S it read your mind lol
Hey! Yeah the art world is a tough one. What annoys me the most is those people who go there totally sucking, and if any of them have the nerve to complain then it's merely because they are WAY too confident in themselves. Some *immature* people get sooooo defensive about their work, and don't even realize that they are so newb. And they will stay newb because they don't listen to other people's advice. I think these cons would be more fun if there was some sort of art related competition, just to get some people improving on some levels. Ah well, all blabbering. I think your post makes a lot of sense. ;)
hahaha I like how you used newb *hugs* have you ever encountered those defensive artists? I'd love to hear some stories hahaha, and yeah there are some ppl who really need to slow down and listen to comments and crits. I like the idea of an art competition, it'll be nice to have something like: you reg on friday night and you have to start only after you reg, then submit the entries by sunday and they determine the winner. And anyone can enter. Anyway blabbering is good, ^___^ thanks for the comment!
Ah yeah I have...I believe I met this random girl online, and she was showing me a bit of her stuff. A lot of it was like...anime/animal things. I forgot the word for it. Anyway, it was REALLY bad. She made HUGE-ass shine bubbles in their hair. Like, half their head would be white. -wtf- I told her she might wanna change that...and she got really defensive. "It's MY style." Is what she says. Is what they all say...rofls.
rofl that's so true! "it's my style" is a very convenient phrase indeed >_<
heya Ashling, i just randomly found this post of yours, its a good read.
This years fan expo was my second run at artists alley, and i did alright for myself. i'm hardly a millionaire after the event, but like you said, i met tons of great people and even made some contacts.
I can't stress enough how important your point about meeting and chatting with people is. In our line of work, we hardly get to meet the people face to face who like our stuff. Most of the time, it's something that our audience views passively at home on the internet. Last year, when I barely sold anything, I still walked away feeling good about it because I had a chance to engage and interact with folks.
one other bit of advice that you mention thats worth reinforcing is the idea of promoting your own original ideas and talent. I understand that folks will connect more to things they are familiar with (wolverine, naruto, ninja turtles) but the Artist (with a capital A) in me just can't bring myself to slavishly reproduce other peoples concepts. my table-mates and I were promoting original artwork that spoke to our own voice and personality - I'd never sell out on that. To my surprise, I sold out of almost all the prints I was selling.
Well thats about it, thanks again for the great post.
Hi Rey! wow it's great to hear from another artist so close to home! I'm very glad to hear that you're sticking to your own vision and what you want to produce instead of what is popular. And congratulations on your success! it says a lot about your ideas and skill when you do so well with your original pieces.
When I first started out, I did purely fanart, not only because I thought it'd sell better, but because I genuinely took pleasure in creating them. It was an exciting time for me, and when I really like a character, I have a natural tendency to want to draw them (I'm sure that's true for a lot of people) but since I was still in high school I didn't have much time to spend on doing fanart on top of developing original ideas, so I ended up with the former. Recently I've become increasingly interested in my own characters, my own stories, my own universe, etc and it's more inspiring for me to draw something original that is related to that universe than it is to draw someone else's. I think that's a step every artists go through. And I'm glad that I've taken a step forward in this direction.
But back to the topic of artist alley; I guess in the end, as long as you're good and your art attracts attention/speaks for itself without relying on popular characters, people will be more inclined to buy it.
Well anyway, thanks for leaving the comment, I wonder if I've seen you at the con hehe, do you have any plans to go back next year?
i'm considering doing it again - it largely depends on if my table mates want to do it again too.
we are sort of gravitating more towards paradise and tcaf when it comes around - i like the vibe from those a bit more
I'm glad you guys might do it again! =) I'll definitely look for you next year if I go...what is tcaf and paradise, and you when you said vibe did you mean the attitudes of the ppl attending? or events there? etc. =)
hi everyone! this year i'm going to have my own table at Anme North (if i get a table in time). the advice on this page is great and now i can't wait. but there are many types of art i want to try that costs quite a bit. i mean when u add all the prints, stickers, buttons or whatever it adds up. so does any1 have a suggestion to the amount i should limit myself on spending? or a ballpark # you guys made your first time selling? i'm more excited about meeting the other artists than making money, but i don't want to go broke :)
hey alison! I have personally never done buttons or stickers, but I can give you an estimate of how much I've spent in the past. I think the past couple of years I set a $200 budget for myself (including table fees) so it was really around $100 spent on printing. The first time I had a table I had about 10 prints of each artwork, which is way too many, in the end I sold out of 2-3 pieces of artwork while the rest were barely touched. However, I went home and printed out another round of those popular prints on my own printer and sold them on sunday, adding to the amount of money I made. In the end, I broke even and made around $100 profit. So based on my own experience, I would limit myself to $200 for AN, especially if you're just starting out. After the first time you'll learn what works for you and what doesn't, and you can adjust your budget after that accordingly. Anyway I hope that helped (somewhat ^^;;) You should check out the AN forums here
http://p197.ezboard.com/bteahouseofthemaplemoon
there are lots of artists in the artist section that would be able to give you further advice. Good luck with the table and maybe I'll see you there! =D
Thanks for the awesome post. I am planning on getting a table in Anime North 2009's artist alley, and this has really lightened my spirits. I am still quite worried about a lot of it, but not so much, thanks to you.
So, you'd say about 10 copies of each print? I know I'm just going for my first time, but that number just seems small :( But I'm not even sure if I'm any good at this drawing thing O.o Would you mind checking out my site and giving me some feedback? It'd be a great help.
www.danikuindersma.exofire.net
I am planning on doing a lot of fanart for the con, maybe only 1 or 2 pieces of original artwork, because I know that fanart sells. Also, how many different prints is the average amount to have if it is your first artist alley showing? My main problem, as you can see, is figuring out the numbers. Also, do you know how many bookmarks you'd recomend? They would sell more then prints I'd assume, but I still don't know how many to make.
It'd be a great help if you could answer my questions. Oh, and are you planning on hitting AN in 2009 as well? If so, I will be sure to stop by your table :)
Hi Dani! sorry for the late response. I'm really glad that this post helped. To be honest, I haven't done the Alley in a couple of years, so whatever I remember may be a bit outdated. But based on my own experience, 10 prints is more than enough, especially if you're going for the first time. For me, I had around 10 prints each, and about 10-15 different drawings. For most of my drawings, I sold less than 5 each, some were untouched. But I had 2-3 prints that sold all 10, and I reprinted them at home for the next day and kept selling. So it's a good idea to have a place to make more prints if you realise that you have a popular drawing. The tough part is figuring out which ones will sell. And that depends on the fandom at the time. When I was there, Naruto was extremely popular, I'm sure it still is, but new shows may also be taking the spotlight, so that's worth looking into.
Fanart does sell, and for your first time there, it's a good idea to stick to that. However, don't be afraid to include original artwork, because in the end, there will always be other artists drawing the same characters/fanart as you. For original artwork, you can't go wrong with "hot guys" and/or "cute girls." If you decide to keep going to the Alley, you may realise one day that drawing fanart is not as satisfying as drawing original characters, even if they don't sell as well.
For bookmarks, I'm not too sure. I've never done them, but I assume that like you said, they would sell more than prints. If they're cheap to produce and you really like your drawings, then make as many as you want, you can always sell them at the next convention or next year. If you want a number, I would suggest 20-30? Again, I'm not an expert on that so you may want to ask around on the Anime North forums.
I have gone to your site (nice site!) and I think you have some pretty nice drawings, you seem to draw cute girls well. You can definitely make some prints of your girls with their poses, and see how they do. Colored is always better, of course, and I like your cel-style coloring. I especially like the 4th and the 7th of your photoshop drawings. And you can consider coloring the 1st, 2nd and 3rd of your sketches. If you price these reasonably, ie. $5 a print, I think people will like them.
Fanart you can do $5-8, or even $10 depending on how well you think they will do. It's a bit of a guessing game. But you can always adjust the price later on.
I think I've mentioned it before, but don't worry too much about making money right now. The first few times is all about experience. I'm not saying you won't break even or make a profit, but don't think about it too much. Just have fun with your paintings, and set a reasonable budget like $100 to $200 so that you won't lose out on too much money even if things don't turn out the way you expect.
I hope I have helped with these answers, and feel free to ask if you need clarification or have any other questions. I do have plans to go to AN09, but I'm not sure if I can get a table (with the mad rush every year) If I do, I will make a post on this blog and hopefully see you there!
Good luck and have fun!
Wow, thanks so much for the reply! No worries on the lateness of it, it was extremely helpful! I think I'm pretty much ready for the artist alley now! ...Well, once I draw some new pictures that is, ha ha. I'll be sure to post back here after the tables get sold out to tell you if I got one or not, and to see if you got one too. I really hope I'm lucky enough to snatch one before it's too late!
Again, thank you so much for all the help! I'll post back later, and if I don't end up getting in touch, I'll make it a mission to hunt you down at the convention and thank you personally. :)
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